- L. Gregory Jones
- F. LeRon Shults and Steven Standage
- Mark McMinn
Peace,
Chelle
Britt Govea is a real dude. He and (((folkYEAH!))) present shows like the ones you heard about happening in the good old days of rock n roll. California has since been taken over by bullshit in many regards, but next time you let that get you down, go see the Beachwood Sparks play at the Henry Miller Library. You soon remember the magic of this vast state and all it's treasures. Britt often comes to mind whenever I think of Big Sur and some of the best concerts I have ever attended.
1. How did you get started with (((folkYEAH!)))?
The first (((folkYEAH!))) event was a weekend of Superwolf (Bonnie 'Prince' Billy & Matt Sweeney) shows in January. 2005. After that, I thought why not more live music in
2. What is the best show you've ever seen?
Wow, so many come to mind but perhaps Bonnie 'Prince' Billy @ Henry Miller Library in Oct. 2007 or Bob Dylan @ The Santa Cruz Civic in March 2000 or Merle Haggard @ Crystal Palace right after his bout with cancer.
All were unbeatable on many levels but who could deny Cluster @ Farmlab in LA, or Entrance Band in Big
3. If you were forced to choose between a house with a beautiful view and no land, or a house with land but absolutely no view, what would you choose?
I'll take the view because I am a dreamin' man so I need the inspiration.
4. What was the last music you overheard that made you ask, "who is that?
The Durutti Column who my very good friend Matt Baldwin turned me onto.
5. Who are your heroes?
Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Hans-Joachim Roedelius, Leonard Cohen, Konrad "Conny" Plank, Bob Dylan...man, that's a lot of heroes. Perhaps they are not heroes but more people with whom I have had a prolonged respect/admiration for in the sometimes fickle world of music. I admire people that do what they feel and move forward as such without restraint. That said, Tom Waits, David Berman, Neil Young and Will Oldham should be saluted too.
This is a closed book exam. Please do not cut and paste from other sources or previous writing. However, you can look at the questions beforehand and prepare for the exam. As you are writing, you should refer to the assigned readings from class for it will do great things for your grade (hint, hint). But you are not required to formally cite your sources. It would be helpful if you knew which author the idea came from but you don’t have to give the article title or page number.
Choose TWO of the following questions to answer. There is a two-hour time limit to your writing of the exam. The exam is due by 4:30 on Friday, March 20th. If you are mailing the exam to MHGS, the exam must be post-marked by March 20th.
1. What are some ways that the concept of ‘hospitality’ was defined throughout the course of the class? How would you define hospitality for yourself? Do you think hospitality is possible (ala Boersma)?
2. Do you think that the Holy Spirit is a ‘person’? (Remember to define the term ‘person’.) What difference does this make to your own understanding of who God is in your life and in the world?
3. Do you think the Church is a sacramental community? What difference does this make in your vision of the Church? And what role does the Lord’s Supper/Eucharist play in your understanding of who the Church is in the world? In other words, do the sacraments really make a practical difference to the practice of faith?
4. What is the difference between the ‘seen’ Church and the ‘unseen’ Church? How does your Pneumatology shape your understanding of who is inside and outside the Church? How does your Ecclesiology shape your understanding of who is inside and outside the Church? How does your Eschatology shape your understanding of who is inside and outside the Church?
5. How would you articulate your understanding of ultimate hope? Does this hope make a practical difference in your everyday life? And how does (if it does) the Resurrection of Jesus Christ fit into your vision of eschatological hope?
Our Guests this Weekend are Dr. Kristen and Rev. Trygve Johnson from Hope College in Holland, MI. I am very excited that they are coming to share with us. Tryg, the campus pastor at Hope, is a very talented sermonator and Kristen is one of the brightest (and most beautiful) women that I know. The Johnson's are thoughtful and interesting folks, so I hope that you will greet them with a very warm Mars Hill welcome. They will take some time on Friday to share their own stories with you. It should be a very thought-provoking weekend that will send you on your way wondering what the resurrection of the body matters to your own life!! Good stuff!
Peace,
Chelle
Friday March 13th (Start Time is 1PM!!!!!)
1.00 ~ Quiz
1:15-2.00 ~ Introductions: Our stories, overview of the weekend, key ideas and readingsSaturday March 14th (Start Time is 10AM!!!)
10:00-11:45 ~ Discussion: please read the N.T. Wright and the Hart/Bauckham articles
12-1 ~ Lecture: Shalom and the Story of God's Redemption by Chelle
1-2 ~ Lunch!
2-3 ~ Lecture: Barth and Moltmann by Kristen
3-3:15 ~ Break
3:15-3:45 ~ Small Group Discussion on Lewis' The Great Divorce
3:50-5 ~ Bringing it all together: Panel Discussion on Ressurection and Eschatology1. What is 86 to you? When did it become such a community center?
That’s kind of a big one to start out with. On a basic level it’s a house and an art gallery. There are five rooms here and I do what I can to continually make it as affordable as possible, so as a consequence I’ve lived with dozens and dozens of different folks over the years. I literally couldn’t name all of the people I’ve lived with. There have been roommates that have put out albums, published books, received Master’s Degrees, absorbed astronomical amounts of THC, etc. We’ve had a steady group for the last few years now and they’re all amazing people.
As an art fan, I feel luckier than I can express to live here because there are hundreds of pieces in the house that I get to come home to every day. Each work of art (except for four) contains the number 86 in it, in some form or another, as a symbol of the sense of community that sort of embodies the place. There really is an astounding atmosphere here and we’re constantly surrounded by the funniest, smartest, most talented people you can hope to meet. I think the sense of community probably started around 1994. We used to be more of a party house until then, but that’s when the first Eighty-Six paintings started to roll in and also when we began to organize events rather than just have random parties. To this day, we’re known for our events and it’s nice to see them gain steam every year.
We’re also pretty heavily involved in the music scene(s) around
2. Do you have a certain personal vision of what you want out of your drumming or do you try to emulate techniques you admire? Or both?
Over the last couple of years, my goal with drumming has been to ride the fine line between being a role player and adding a creative element to songs. I mean, I don’t want to stand out by being flashy or incorporating weird timing changes, but I do want the drums to be integral to the way the song is meant to sound. I don’t ever consciously try to imitate other drummers or techniques, but I certainly get motivated by specific people. For instance, I’m really into Glenn Kotche right now but I wouldn’t go to band practice and try to add some fills or beats to a song that might sound like his style. However, I will take notice of the care and scrutiny that he takes with his drum parts and in turn I’ll try to do the same with songs that I play on.
Listening to good drummers usually lights a bit of a fire under my ass to pay more attention to what the drums should be doing in a song and to try and adhere to that.
3. Who are some of the poets you enjoy?
I’m eternally thankful for the poetry of Bukowski. I would never have motivated myself to start writing if it weren’t for him. Some others that stand out are: Sharon Olds, Billy Childish, Gerard Manley Hopkins, e.e. Cummings, Robert Browning, Christina Rossetti, Dan Fante, Raegan Butcher, Raymond Carver.
Poetry is kind of a weird beast to me. I appreciate a lot of the underground/counterculture stuff because it appeals to my punk rock upbringing and disposition, but I truly feel that much of the canonized pieces are more than deserving of their status. It’s almost like the angry, more colloquial stuff really jives with my emotional state, but the anthologized poems become incredibly engaging when dissected and explicated. Especially the Victorians…I dig them friggin’ Victorians.
4. Do you consider comic books to be high art? Is there a particular example you can give?
Some of it, certainly. The beauty of comics is that they can appeal to two sensibilities simultaneously. There really are a lot of phenomenal, intelligent writers doing top-notch work on some titles. Authors like Brian K. Vaughan, Bill Willingham, Alan Moore, and Neil Gaiman really understand the craft and write better than most other people who put out books that don’t have pictures in them.
On an aesthetic level, some of the very best artwork being released today is in the comic medium. I’m also happy to see the borders between the gallery/fine art scenes and the comic book world starting to blur. I think that comic artists such as James Jean, Ashley Wood, Charles Burns, Alex Ross, Dave Cooper, Eric Powell, and Ben Templesmith are going to help merge the two realms. Also, I’d like to say that there is absolutely no truth to the assumed edict that the true ‘artistic’ talents in comics lie in the indie/underground titles and that hero books are nothing more than spandex and uppercuts. Some of the most thoughtful and intriguing writing being published today is coming from super hero books. Seriously.
5. What's your current passion?
I’m always juggling a handful of things that I’m passionate about, but lately I’ve been inundating myself with music. I’ve been going to a shit-ton of concerts, as well as playing as many shows as I can, and for some reason it seems like I’ve been having more and more really good conversations about music lately. I’ve also been introduced to a bunch of bands recently (thanks, Lingua) and that kind of serves as a catalyst for the enthusiasm. Furthermore, I can’t stop record shopping. It’s getting ridiculous. I don’t really think twice about spending money on records, but I don’t view that as a fault. It’s not an obsession, it’s sustenance. Besides, if I start to spend too much on music I’ll just cut corners on other expenses. For instance, I’ve bought about 20 records this week, but I barely picked up any crack cocaine or Cambodian porn. It all works out in the wash.
It's another Friday night in Los Angeles. Haloed streetlights lace the quiet fogginess of Echo Park, casting shadows along the quiet stretch of Glendale Blvd. between Temple & the 1st St. Bridge. Behind an unassuming, rolling metal gate, a small crowd of brown baggers in a tiny parking lot assures you that you've found just where you need to be... welcome to Pehrspace.
It's Friday the 13th to be more precise, and Jack Wilson Jr. will be killing it here tonight. The house lights cast a dim red glow over the band as they warm up into their fitting 1st song of the night, "Red All Over." A slow bass groove notes the tempo as "Pt. 8: Jason Takes Manhattan" looms in frozen frame on the back wall. Next, guitar and high hat lead into vocals.
With total "tell it like it is, brother" honesty, the love-life advice lyrics evoke from the crowd heart felt "uh-huh's" & "damn, that's true" laughter. There's no other way to properly express the feeling in the room. By the time that the verse has reached the brutal truth, "...you'll never be in love until you're happy on your own," someone cries out, "THAT'S COLD!!!" The crowd nods, claps, dances and raise their drinks.
This is how Jack Wilson Jr. works a room.
1. To date, what is the Jack Wilson Jr. story?
The idea for Jack Wilson, Jr. came at the tail end of 2007. At that time Brian and I had been playing for several years in a band called The Natural Disasters. We had just released an album earlier that year, but by this point we'd been performing some of these songs for a very long time. In addition to that, I was feeling like we weren't really getting the recognition we deserved, specifically with regard to the blogger/promoter community. In retrospect, I could have been more proactive in terms of soliciting this kind of attention. I think my attitude at the time was that it was their job to find us. At the same time, I found myself wanting to write more musically expansive songs. Don't get me wrong; Brian is a great drummer. He plays with a lot of taste. One thing I loved about Natural Disasters was that he was able to come up with a unique "signature" for each song, whether it be the beat itself or some kind of fill or set up. That's not an easy thing to do, especially when the songwriter shows up with so much similar-sounding material. But in the end, there's only so much you can do with just drums and guitar. That was kind of the point of that band, to see how far you could go with it. And we did. But then I started wanting to play ballads.
During this time I was also playing in another band called Lucinda & the Lost Dogs (they have since changed the name to Dustin Fire). There were some lineup changes throughout the years but for the most part it was Lucinda, Mustang, and myself. Lu is a huge lover of country music, among other things. The three of us collaborated on probably 20 different songs and it was a great learning experience. Thinking back on it, this is probably what inspired me to want to write songs with more of an ear for melody, or to experiment more with different feels and tempos. You can get a whole new depth of feeling out of a song just by slowing it down a little bit. Towards the end I brought Mike in on bass. He had been a friend for a while but we hadn't had too much of a chance to play together up until that point. A lot of people know Mike as, like, a genius guitar player, but I think he actually likes playing bass more!
When the Jack Wilson band started up, we had Mike on guitar and his old buddy Noah from Cal Arts on bass. It was really rad to be surrounded by all these great musicians; they'd be warming up to Charlie Parker's "Confirmation" and then I'd have to show them my little four-chord song. Eventually Noah left the band when his other group got signed [the Airborne Toxic Event]. Actually, I just heard today that their label merged with Island, which is huge. It's funny seeing him on TV with all his ridiculous rings and necklaces. I get a real kick out of it.
2. What's behind the name Jack Wilson, Jr.?
The name Jack Wilson, Jr. comes from a historical figure I learned about while working as a teacher at the Autry Museum in Griffith Park. Brian worked there also, along with Joey Siara, artist Michael Hsiung, and Grant and Justin from Echo Curio. Jack Wilson was the English name, or "white name," given to Native healer and self-proclaimed prophet Wovoka by the Wilson family, for whom he sometimes worked as a teenager. Wovoka became a national celebrity among Indians in the late 1880s as the originator of the "ghost dance" phenomenon. This was a communal dance involving a large number of people, who would join hands and dance in a circle sometimes for hours, to the point of fatigue. Performed correctly, the dance was supposed to result in a mystical erasure of the white man and the return of the buffalo to the plains. Dancers would occasionally collapse with exhaustion and later claim to have experienced visions of the new world. This was during the time just after the close of the frontier when the last of the tribes were being forced onto reservations. It was an act of desperation.
What's interesting is that Wilson's philosophy incorporated Christ's teachings of forgiveness and non-violence. Ironically, the hysteria of the dance was seen by the US Army as a prelude to war, and resulted in the assassination of Sitting Bull. He was actually shot by a member of the Indian Police. The fallout of that event led to the Wounded Knee Massacre just two weeks later, an ugly, shameful end to one of the ugliest and most shameful chapters in US History. Jack Wilson though, as a person, was never really qualified as a political leader. He was a self-mythologizing con artist, whose "magic" was fairly close to magic as we understand it today-all illusion and slight of hand. We did a song on the Natural Disasters record called "Ghost Dance." Robbie Robertson and Patti Smith also have songs by that title.
Then there's also Jackie Wilson, "Mr. Excitement," whose unique style of dance was derived from his training as a boxer. If you watch his videos on YouTube with that in mind, you can see it right away. They're the same moves that "made" Elvis. Not to say that Elvis wasn't a great dancer, because he was. But a lot of what you might recognize as his signature moves actually came from Jackie.
Lastly-and I didn't realize this until after we'd settled on the name-Jack Palance's character from Shane is also named, guess what, Jack Wilson. He's one of the baddest dudes in the history of Westerns. So there it is: cowboys & indians and rhythm & blues.
3. What are your thoughts on the local LA music scene?
God, there are so many bands. Probably the highest number per capita anywhere, ever. But it doesn't bother me. I think it's great. It's the harvest to the proverbial seed planted by bands like The Minutemen and Beat Happening. I think what bothers me about it is that the bands that wind up getting attention are not necessarily the best bands. Some of them are. There doesn't seem to be any correlation; it has more to do with promoter politics and a willingness to play that particular game. I'm probably being na•ve by pretending it has anything to do with anything other than hustle and, eventually, money.
I'll clue you in on something I'm a bit hesitant to admit-for the past several months, we've only played two venues in LA: Pehrspace and Echo Curio. I can't say enough about either of these venues, or rather about the people that make them what they are. Five bucks, tops, the bands get paid out, you can drink for cheap as long as you agree to be discreet... you can't beat it. I don't want to name names but we've had situations before dealing with other clubs where you have last minute changes to the lineup, to set times, and then a real hard time getting paid to top it off. Which would be one thing if the organizers made any effort to promote the show (did any "organizing" as it were). But if it's all on the bands, then they should receive a larger portion of the profit. Or retain the option to limit the door price.
To be honest, I don't know how much of a "scene" it really is. In my mind, a "scene" is a bunch of local bands influencing each other, resulting in some kind of unifying "sound" (ie. "the Seattle sound"). LA has everything. Except hip-hop, which is lamentable. I'm talking more about the Silverlake/Echo Park scene, not the city at large. There are so many talented people pursuing so many different musical paths that it's hard to define what the so-called Eastside Scene is really about. I remember one night playing poker with a bunch of musicians from different bands. We were listening to Creedence and someone said, "God, how can you guys listen to this? I mean, didn't they ever hear of distortion pedals?" Which really shocked me, you know, because most people we tend to play with don't own any guitar pedals... maybe an old Metal Zone or something, for sentimental value. But that shows you how diverse it is. And I love that about it.
4. What's one quote or piece of advice that forever changed your perspective on music...particularly songwriting?
I'm reading a book right now called Songwriters on Songwriting, which is full of good stuff. One thing a lot of people say is that you can't lead the process too much. You have to let the song lead you where it wants to go. You have be able to sort of "unfocus," I don't know, like one of those magic eye paintings or something. I was never any good at those; I could never see the sailboat or whatever. Paul Simon does this thing where he throws a ball against the wall to preoccupy his conscious mind. He says if a line jumps out at you, just take it down, don't start worrying about what it means. I tried it a day or two after reading his interview, and sure enough, I got a great song out of it. At first it didn't seem to be "about" anything, but after I had most of it down, I was able to step back and see that it was very specifically about two things that were very current and very personal.
Tom Petty is really annoying. Most of his big songs came instantly, or "in as much time as it takes to play the song." But then you look at a Tom Petty song, "Free Fallin'" for example-the whole chorus is just one word that gets repeated. I wish I could write a song like that; I don't know why I feel like every song has to be a page long. He talks about trusting in your subconscious. Like with "You Wreck Me." He had a placeholder lyric-"you rock me"-which he knew was corny but he left it because something about it sounded right. Then one day he had the idea to change it to "you wreck me" and boom the whole song came into focus. And I think a lot of what makes that a powerful lyric is that it does sound so similar to "you rock me." There's a lesson.
When I was in college, I sang in this band called The Dirty Tanners. The rest of the band had no musical training at all, with the exception of the drummer, who was a jazz guy. Because we were limited in terms of what we could do musically, the songs all evolved from jam sessions in the basement. I couldn't just walk in with a song and start calling out chords. So I would take these jam tapes and play them loud on my bedroom stereo, and kind of walk around singing nonsense syllables in order to get ideas for a melody. And I would record that. And what was cool about it was that listening back, I could hear myself using certain vowel sounds or words or even phrases. So once I could figure out what I was trying to say, the conscious mind could then kick in and finish it. That was productive for me, and I don't know why I haven't tried it since. Maybe I will.
If I had to single out one specific quote, I guess it would be something Bob Dylan said, in that same book. Which is ironic because he absolutely refuses to take the interview seriously. It was hard for me because I'm a huge fan and it's sort of childish... I mean it was cute when he did it in 1965 and the press was coming at him with all these dumb questions about what does he have to say about "x" as the spokesman of his generation? My girlfriend doesn't like Dylan, she says he's "a liar" for all the stuff he came out with early in his career about having been in the circus as a kid and living in New Mexico or whatever. I mean, when you look at some of the stuff, it's not to be taken seriously: [telling his life story, Playboy, 1966] "I wind up in Phoenix. I get a job as a Chinaman. I start working in a dime store, and move in with a 13-year-old girl. Then this big Mexican lady from Philadelphia comes in and burns the house down." But anyway, after 15 pages of jerking this guy around (most of which I skimmed, or skipped) he finally says, "There's something about my lyrics that have a gallantry to them. And that might be all they have going for them." And that's the end of the interview. I think that's true. Songwriting is not like writing a short story, or a magazine article. If anything, it's like... instant messaging. It has to be simple. Fragmented. Ordinary. It just has to sound right.
5. What's your favorite bicycling in LA story/experience?
That's hard... I guess it was four or five years ago, right when Midnight Ridazz was starting to get big. I lived in an apartment with a couple and their two cats and a dog and an injured bird. We met some people on the ride, and afterwards everybody came back to our place. I cooked breakfast burritos and we continued to drink and at some point someone had the idea to play charades so we did that for like an hour, taking it totally seriously, you know? With these kids we'd barely just met. I haven't done any of those group rides for a while now, but I used to love it when someone would roll down their window and yell, "what are you riding for?" The best moment was when someone did that and this guy wearing a chicken suit cruised by, screaming his head off. I don't think I've ever heard a more perfect answer to that question; if there is one I'd like to hear it.
Josh, Joshua, Hosh, Hoshwa, call him what you will. He's got just about as many names for each hat that he can proudly wear. As host of 5...4...3...2...FUN! a radio show on 91.9 KCSB FM in
Last year he started up SBDIY, promoting the best underground shows all across the county. When he's not too busy making sure the population surrounding UCSB is experiencing enough cuteness, he also tours the country with his sister, Rebecca, as they perform her songs under the moniker Watercolor Paintings. If Josh and his beard are dancing, chances are you are too.
1. What is the worst part of hosting your own radio show?
Oh this is a little hard. Obviously there are more best parts than worst parts. This might be silly, but not being able to go to show shows on Thursday night is the worst! Thursdays at 10pm is probably the best time for the show to be, but sometimes I have to miss shows I want to go to, or leave them early. Everything else is the best!
2. What was your favorite song of 2008?
I've never been good at making top lists or picking favorites. Maybe 'Lindy' off of the L.A.K.E. tape. I've only listened to that song while driving, and the speakers in the car are very poor quality, but I really really like that song. Or maybe this song that my friend Mallory wrote that might be called 'We Sing Our Hearts Out.' Hmmm or maybe, 'Blanket' by Glass Cake. You know what, Girl Band, as a whole, was probably my favorite song of 2008. Yah.
3. If you could be any animal, living or extinct, what would it be and why?
Well not a bird for sure. I hate anything that flies. I mean, I'm jealous of anything that flies. And not a water animals because I don't really like the water. I've never been good at answering this question either. Something real hairy I guess. A bear of gorilla or something. A bear-gorilla.
4. What was the first album you bought with your own money?
Ummmm I think it was probably a ska cd. I have no idea. You know what, it was probably The Fury of The Aquabats! Haha yes!
5. If
Wait, would I not be destroyed with it? Maybe I'd rather be destroyed with it? I try not to think in hypotheticals, but if for some reason I survived said earthquake, I would live on a boat. That would be nice. I wouldn't have to live in any one place, and if the place I was at at the time was destroyed, I could move on. Easy. Maybe I'll do that someday anyway...